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The Pain of Wisconsinites Who Have Family in Gaza and Israel
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2219 | 5m 12sVideo has Closed Captions
Wisconsinites who have Israeli and Palestinian family ties share their anguish and fears.
Wisconsinites who have Israeli and Palestinian family ties share their anguish and fears following a month of rampant bloodshed and offer perspectives on the vitriol, distortions and horror of war.
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The Pain of Wisconsinites Who Have Family in Gaza and Israel
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2219 | 5m 12sVideo has Closed Captions
Wisconsinites who have Israeli and Palestinian family ties share their anguish and fears following a month of rampant bloodshed and offer perspectives on the vitriol, distortions and horror of war.
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>> JUST OVER A MONTH SINCE THE HAMAS TERRORIST ATTACK ON ISRAEL, GOVERNOR TONY EVERS CALLED ON CONGRESS TO INCREASE FUNDS FOR SECURING PLACES OF WORSHIP AS THREATS SURGE AGAINST JEWISH AND MUSLIM COMMUNITIES.
AS "HERE & NOW" REPORTER ADITI DEBNATH TELLS US, THE WAR IS PERSONAL AND PAINFUL FOR THE WISCONSIN FAMILIES YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM.
>> EVERY DAY THEY'RE RUNNING INTO THE BOMB SHELTER.
>> THEY SEND US A TEXT MESSAGE, "WE'RE STILL ALIVE," AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH -- THAT'S ALL WE CAN ASK FOR AT THIS POINT.
>> THESE WISCONSIN FAMILIES HAVE CLOSE CONNECTIONS TO THE WAR.
LIKE MIRYAM ROSENZWEIG, WHOSE PREGNANT SISTER AND NIECE LIVE IN ISRAEL.
I ASKED HER, HOW IS THE 2-YEAR-OLD DOING IS THIS SHE HEARS A SIREN.
SHE KNOWS THEY'RE GOING INTO THE BOMB SHELTER.
>> YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NEWS EVERY DAY.
HASHIM ZAIBAK FOLLOWS THE NEWS EVERY DAY.
AS A NATIVE OF GAZA, HOME TO HAMAS, HE HAS TO MAKE SURE HIS SISTER AND OTHER FAMILY ARE THERE ALIVE.
ZAIBAK OWNS HYATT PHARMACY IN MILWAUKEE AND FEARING ANTIPALESTINIAN BACKLASH, HIRED A SECURITY GUARD TO PATROL HIS BUSINESS.
FOR ROSEN DWEEG, WHERE THE OF THE MILWAUKEE JEWISH FEDERATION, THE VITRIOL CUTS BOTH WAYS.
>> THE HATE THAT HAS BEEN SPEWED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TOWARDS JEWISH COMMUNITY, BOTH AS A COMMUNITY, INDIVIDUAL, IN OUR SCHOOLS, ON OUR CAMPUSES HAS BEEN HORRIFIC TO WATCH.
AND THE SILENCE OF THE CONDEMNATION OF IT IS DEAFENING.
>> HAMAS RAINED DOWN HORROR ON ISRAELIS BUT STILL, ROSENZWEIG SAYS SUPPORT FOR PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS IS CLEAR AMONG MEMBERS OF HER ORGANIZATION.
>> OVERWHELMINGLY, THEY BELIEVE IN THE RIGHT OF PALESTINIAN SELF-DETERMINATION.WHAT PEO PLE ARE MISUNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FIGHT ISN'T WITH THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
THIS WAR IS ABOUT NEUTRALIZING HAMAS.
>> BUT IT'S ABOUT MORE THAN THAT, SAYS UW-MADISON PROFESSOR SAMER.
>> IT'S AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS THAT IS GENOCIDAL.
>> HE IS A GEOPOLITICAL EXPERT OF THE REGION AND A NATIVE OF PALESTINE.
>> AND IT'S ABOUT ETHNIC CLEANSING AND TEASE ABOUT STEALING LAND.
>> HE SAYS MASS MEDIA PERPETUATES THE IDEA THAT THE CONFLICT IS ABOUT RELIGION INSTEAD OF ABOUT THE LAND, AND THAT IDEA HAS DANGEROUS ECHOES IN HISTORY.
>> THE MEDIA SOMETIMES PORTRAYS PALESTINIANS AS THE BAD GUYS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS TO THE JEWS BEFORE WORLD WAR II.
>> ZAIBAK IS NOT THE FIRST ONE TO LIKEN THE SITUATION TO WORLD WAR II.
AS SHE VISITS THE HISTORY MUSEUM, EID UP-T IDIE PUMP SAYSE CONFLICT IS NOT ABOUT RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCES.AS A HOLOCAUST S URVIVOR, SHE REMEMBERS HER FAMILY HIDING IN UZBEKISTAN.>> IT WAS A MUSL IM COMMUNITY AND THEY WERE PROTECTIVE OF THE JEWS.I HAD A MUSLIM MIDWIFE DELIVERED ME.
WHEN I WAS SICK, A MUSLIM MIDWIFE TOOK CARE OF ME, AND THEY PROTECTED MY PARENTS.
>> STILL, THE HAMAS CHARTER, WRITTEN IN 1988, CALLS FOR THE END OF ISRAEL AND ITS JEWISH POPULATION.PUMP COMPARES TH E TERROR OF HAMAS TO NAZI GERMANY.
>> JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOLOCAUST.
>> Reporter: HAMAS IS DESIGNATED BY THE U.S. AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION AND GOVERNS OVER THE GAZA STRIP.
INNOCENT PALESTINIANS ARE CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE.
>> IS HAMAS PALESTINE?
NO.
BUT IS THE P.N.A., THE PALESTINE AUTHORITY PALESTINE?
NO.>> IT'S A COMPLEX HISTOR Y INFLAMED BY CURRENT BLOODSHED, AND ACCORDING TO MIRYAM ROSENZWEIG, SOCIAL MEDIA CAN DISTORT THE TRUTH.
>> PEOPLE SHOULD STOP GETTING THEIR INFORMATION FROM SOCIAL MEDIA.IF YOU COULD FIT IN A TEXT OR POST, IT'S NOT A THOUGHTFUL ARGUMENT.>> BUT ZAIBAK SAYS HE THINKS SOCIAL MEDIA CAN HELP KEEP PEOPLE UP TO DATE AND IT'S OFTEN YOUNGER PEOPLE DISSEMINATING IT.
>> I FEEL IT'S A DIFFERENT GENERATION.I FEEL THAT THE GEN Zers HERE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE VERY EMPATHETIC WITH THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE.
>> EDUCATION IS THE KEY.
LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
LEARN ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PEOPLE AND ACCEPT PEOPLE'S DIFFERENCES.
>> THROUGH IT ALL, HASHIM ZAIBAK AWAITS A DAILY TEXT MESSAGE FROM HIS FAMILY TELLING HIM THEY'RE ALIVE AND MIRYAM 'S NIECE RUNS TO 'S NIECE RUNS TO
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