
Marcos Doesn't Live Here Anymore
Season 2019 Episode 6 | 1h 54m 2sVideo has Closed Captions
A U.S. veteran fights to reunite her family after her undocumented husband is deported.
Elizabeth Perez, a decorated U.S. Marine veteran living in Cleveland, fights to reunite her family after her undocumented husband, Marcos, is deported. Acclaimed filmmaker David Sutherland examines the U.S. immigration system through the lives of two unforgettable protagonists whose lives reveal the human cost of deportation.
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Marcos Doesn't Live Here Anymore
Season 2019 Episode 6 | 1h 54m 2sVideo has Closed Captions
Elizabeth Perez, a decorated U.S. Marine veteran living in Cleveland, fights to reunite her family after her undocumented husband, Marcos, is deported. Acclaimed filmmaker David Sutherland examines the U.S. immigration system through the lives of two unforgettable protagonists whose lives reveal the human cost of deportation.
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>> I love my country.
I put my life on the line.
My country won't let my husband live here.
>> Marcos?
>> Yeah.
It's difficult to live without my family.
(shouting) >> He is missing their entire life.
>> Daddy... >> Pele, we will be together, Pele.
(Pele crying) >> You have done everything.
>> I refuse to say that cause he's not here.
>> I just wanna be with you and the babies.
>> You can't cross.
I don't want to take that chance.
>> The time is killing me.
>> How many hoops do you have to jump through for your family to be together?
>> You want me to move there, right?
I'm not talking about the babies.
I'm talking about us.
>> I love you, Elizabeth.
>> I love you, Marcos.
>> NARRATOR: Tonight, "Marcos Doesn't Live Here Anymore."
♪ ♪ >> Staff Sergeant Elizabeth Perez, United States Marine Corps, please come to the front.
>> Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
As a member of the Lake County Marine Veterans Honor Guard, I present you with these national colors for the city of East Cleveland to fly at City Hall.
(audience applauds) >> East Cleveland takes great pride in accepting the flag.
This flag, from you, is super- special, because we here at East Cleveland know the plight of your journey.
This flag represents freedom.
East Cleveland is honored to accept this flag for everything that you represent and who you represent.
I thank you.
>> Thank you, ma'am.
>> The residents of East Cleveland are very, very, very grateful for your service to the United States Marine Corps.
I'd also like to acknowledge Ms. Veronica Dahlberg, who is the executive director of the Spanish organization and has chosen to partner with you, Sergeant, as a means to help in your efforts.
It's an unfortunate situation that led to the deportation of her husband.
I, as an individual and a citizen of the United States, do support your efforts in regaining your husband's citizenship to the United States.
>> Thank you, sir.
(audience applauds) >> If I could say some words here, too.
Thank you so much for having us today.
And the gift of the flag was really just a gesture of friendship and goodwill.
However, I didn't want to leave without asking, since you want to help Elizabeth, because we have not been able to get any help for her case.
For five long years, she's been separated from her husband, who was deported in 2010.
And she needs her family to be together.
And it just seems like we keep hitting closed doors everywhere.
And I think it would be helpful if we could get a resolution or a letter from the city council in support of Elizabeth's case, and we could give it to our senators and our members of Congress saying that the city of East Cleveland supports the reunification of her family.
As a Marine veteran who has served ten years, she deserves that they cut through the bureaucratic tape and reunite her family.
So, we're hoping that you can help us with the resolution.
Thank you for your time.
>> We will talk to our law director and get back to you as soon as possible.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> Okay, you guys ready to call Daddy?
>> Yes!
(Skype tones playing) >> Marcos!
>> Yeah!
>> Daddy!
>> Hi, guys.
>> Hey!
Can you hear us?
>> Yeah.
>> Hi!
>> Who's that?
>> Where's my bed?
Is it at your house?
>> Yeah, I'm at my house!
Do you want to come to my house?
>> Yes!
>> Yeah, you can come!
>> Can I go to Daddy's house, Mom?
>> You will go later, honey.
>> You don't want to let me go to Daddy's house.
That wasn't nice.
>> Okay.
You guys wanna say your prayers with Daddy?
>> Yes.
>> Are you ready, Marcos?
>> Yeah!
>> Ready?
Pelé?
>> Ready, Pelé?
>> In the Father, the baby, the Son, the Holy... and the baby.
>> Okay, Pelé.
You ready?
Come on, let's go.
>> In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit.
Amen.
>> Dear Jesus.
>> Dear Baby.
>> Thank you for my family, thank you for my friends, and I love you, Jesus.
Amen.
>> Night-night, Pelé.
Night-night, Rocky.
Besito!
>> Daddy, are you gonna sleep for a little bit?
>> Yeah.
>> After you woke up?
>> Aw.
>> Night-night, Dad.
>> Night-night, Pelé.
Night-night, Rocky.
Love you guys!
Night night, Pelé.
>> All right, love you.
>> Love you.
>> Forward, march!
Left, right, lo right.
Right, left.
Left, right, lo right.
Right, left.
Left, right, hi lo right.
Lo left, right, lo right.
Right, left.
Left, right.
Right, left.
(phone ringing) >> Hello, Leopold and Associates.
Hi, sir.
Actually, attorney Leopold is in a meeting right now.
I can go ahead and take your name and number, and I'll make sure he gets your message.
>> Hi, Elizabeth, how are you?
>> I'm good, and you?
>> Yeah, good.
So you had no trouble finding us today?
>> Nope.
Got here pretty good, thanks.
>> Good.
It's good to see you.
>> You, too.
>> Remind me, if you would, of your, your experience in the U.S. Marines.
When you got in, and, and, and, ah, what you did there and, and, when you left the Marines.
>> Um, first I joined the Ohio Army National Guard before the Marine Corps, and that was in 1999.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> We went to Afghanistan in 2003, January, so it was right at the same week when, actually, the day we got on the plane to go to Afghanistan was the day former President Bush was on TV giving Saddam Hussein the 48 hours.
And then I joined the Marine Corps.
And I was in there for five years.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I love my country.
I literally, literally put my life on the line.
I mean, I was scared a couple of times about things that could happen.
>> Yeah.
>> It's not fair.
My country won't let my husband live here.
>> Okay.
So at some point, you leave the Marines, you get back here.
Tell me how you met Marco.
>> Ah, I met him when I was in California.
Um, I actually met him walking down the street.
And, yeah, we just hit it off right away.
I mean, ever since the day I met him, we spent every single day together.
>> What I love about Elizabeth right away, instantly, I get interested in having a relationship with her.
I never meet somebody like, like, like her, like so human.
And she's not really materialistic.
And when I'm in Mexico, I never meet my dad.
I, ah, I, I don't live really much with my, with my mom.
So, when I meet her, she totally become right away like my family.
That's what, I love her for that.
>> So, at the time that Marco gets picked up by immigration, you already knew there was a problem with his status.
You had been to a lawyer... >> Mm-hmm.
>> ...hoping to start the process.
>> Yeah.
>> How does it happen that he got picked up?
What happened?
>> He was running through a yellow light, and the police called me on my cell phone.
They couldn't identify him, and they're asking me who he was, and then the police told me, "Well, we can just call ICE.
And ICE can verify who he is."
And I said, and I was really respectful, I was, like, "No, sir.
You don't have to do that."
>> Yeah.
>> And right when I said that, right after I said that, my...
I don't know why my phone died-- my phone died.
Like, it just shut off.
And I couldn't call back.
>> They were holding him on a traffic violation.
>> Yeah.
>> The lawyer you talked to told you not to pay that bail.
That would give him... to get him out on a traffic violation, because if you did that, then ICE would come and take him, Immigration and Customs Enforcement would come and take him.
>> Yes.
>> So you were not to pay the bail, so that he was held by the state authorities.
>> Yes.
>> All right.
And, what happens next?
>> After he spent his 14 days in Mayfield Heights, they turned him over to immigration, and then he just called me one day, from his cell phone number.
And I was, like, wow, you know?
How am I getting a phone call from him?
And they had just dropped him at the border, and he was gonna lose reception once he crossed the bridge or something.
>> Did you call the lawyer when, when Marcos was finally deported?
>> Yeah, I told him.
>> And what'd the lawyer say?
>> He told me, um, "Well, we'll just have to file the visa paperwork from there."
In Mexico.
>> There's a law called the permanent bar.
That means that if somebody enters the United States, and then they're deported, and then they come back, and then they're deported again, or they leave again, they're barred what's called permanently.
So, really, you don't have any relief at all.
You can't get him back here for a minimum of ten years.
>> He wants to cross the border and come back now, even.
Today.
I mean, he talks to me about it, like, every week, and I'm, like, "No.
You can't do that ."
>> Yeah.
That's good that you're telling him that, because... >> But at the same time, it's, like, my kids.
Like, just the other day, the older one actually told me that, um...
Sorry.
>> Do you need a Kleenex?
>> No, I'm good.
He told me, um, we were going through pictures, and there were pictures when we were in Mexico, and he told me, "Mommy, can we go there to Daddy's house and stay and not come back here?"
And I was, like, "What?"
He's so... like, you know, like, they know what's going on, you know?
They're not stupid.
They... before, they were babies, and they were infants.
Now they're getting older, and they're starting to, like, understand things, and it's really hard for me.
>> Yeah.
>> Especially, like, when I look at them, and I know, like, how much I miss them, even if they're at school, and think how bad... he is missing their entire life.
And it's really hard.
It makes me really mad, because I have to move if I want to be with my family, you know what I mean?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> So, technically, it's like an exile.
I have to leave, and find another country to live, because my husband can't live here.
And I just can't wrap my head around that.
>> Nothing's impossible.
He had some brushes with the law.
>> Yeah.
>> Ah, he got convicted of possession of stolen property and battery.
>> I wasn't there, and I didn't know him at the time.
I'm not condoning anything, as far as anyone hitting a woman.
And he kicked her in the leg, and she called the police.
>> Okay.
I'm not questioning whether he's a good man or a bad man.
I know if he's married to you, my view, is he's got to be a good guy.
>> Yeah.
>> But, people make mistakes in life, and Marcos made some.
So, we're gonna have to show absolute rehabilitation.
>> Well, he also has, because these are in 2001, so this is 13 years ago.
So, he had nothing.
>> So, that's actually some good news.
It's... in a, in a, in a pile of bad news.
I mean, that's where the hope is.
There is some hope here, okay?
>> Well, thank you very much for your time.
I really appreciate it.
>> Good to see you, Elizabeth.
>> It was good seeing you.
Thank you so much.
>> All right, be good.
>> We'll be in touch.
>> (chanting): Sí, se puede!
Sí, se puede!
Sí, se puede!
>> I've done a lot of public speaking, and I feel pretty comfortable.
I mean, when I was in the Marine Corps, I could talk in front of people all the time.
I've been continuing to do a lot of advocacy work with HOLA for undocumented workers, and I've been asked to speak at this event.
>> (chanting): We want justice!
We want justice!
>> We, we don't want welfare!
We don't want food stamps!
We want a fair day's pay for a fair day of work!
That's all we want!
And we want to be treated with dignity!
We want to be treated like men and women that we are, to recognize our humanity, not treat us like dogs that die under the trees.
We shall keep walking justice together until we realize on Earth as it is in heaven.
(speaks Spanish) (crowd cheering) >> Hey, everybody!
I can't believe how much power we just felt going through that street.
This is just awesome!
(crowd cheering) The people on the bus that I came with, they understand injustices as well.
Many of them, their families have been ripped apart, and they have lost loved ones, but they are so strong, and they are here today.
I also have had some suffering, but it's very embarrassing for me to talk about that in front of this group of people that has endured a lot of suffering also.
I'm a veteran of both the Ohio Army National Guard and the United States Marine Corps.
(crowd cheering) Semper Fidelis is the Marine Corps motto.
Always Faithful.
Those aren't just words.
That's a life standard.
(crowd cheering) My husband, Marcos, was stopped in 2010, he was an undocumented worker.
He was scooped up and thrown away like trash.
He is not trash.
Everyone here is a man and a woman, and you deserve to be treated as a man and a woman and nothing else.
(crowd cheering) These injustices are just too great: from here, in the fields of North Carolina, all across the United States where families are being shredded apart.
And what are our elected officials doing?
Nothing!
The only thing I see is injustices and families separated and people working in horrible, horrible, wretched work conditions, and that is not satisfactory.
>> No!
>> For ten years, I dedicated my life to this country.
I absolutely love this country.
If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.
This is the means to resist, and we have the means to resist, right here, this is what we're doing!
But let's just take a moment of silence and recognize some real heroes: the people who have separated from their families or really work hard for their family.
Okay, thanks.
(crowd cheering) >> ♪ She worked all night long, she cleaned up six floors ♪ ♪ Her working day is now beginning ♪ ♪ He worked all day long ♪ ♪ He picked up the crops ♪ ♪ His swollen fingers are still bleeding ♪ ♪ They work in the offices ♪ ♪ And serve in the restaurants ♪ ♪ His hands keep lifting America ♪ ♪ Some came from the South ♪ ♪ Some came from afar ♪ ♪ Tell me, who's the Native American?
♪ ♪ Do you forget the human?
♪ ♪ And don't you know we are the same?
♪ ♪ Did you forget you're my sister, my brother?
♪ ♪ Don't you feel we share your pain?
♪ ♪ Did you forget the human?
♪ ♪ Don't you know we share your pain?
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Out of the shadows ♪ ♪ We're walking together and into the light ♪ ♪ Out of the shadows ♪ ♪ We're walking together and into the light ♪ ♪ Estamos unidos ♪ ♪ Marchemos juntos... ♪ ♪ Estamos unidos ♪ ♪ Marchemos juntos... ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Did you forget the human?
♪ ♪ Don't you know we are the same?
♪ (car horn honking, music fading) >> I haven't been with my wife, Elizabeth, for two years.
I don't see her.
I don't see my, my kids, Pelé and Rocky.
It's been a hard time for me.
We're in communication.
We Skype.
It's not the same, because we will not touch.
We will not hug.
We will not feel.
At least, when you see them, you, you know they okay.
(train horn blaring) Getting back from United States to Mexico, it was starting another life again.
Even with my family, when I leave Mexico, I was a teenager-- different personality, different ideas, different life.
Now, I'm different.
I'm, like, 43.
And, and I feel like, when I come back, uh, I feel like they forgot me, or they... Because they don't feel me.
They don't really have attachment with me and anything.
We don't talk really close.
Nothing.
And I feel like when somebody die.
But now, my younger brother and I become really good friends.
>> (humming) >> My younger brother has been cutting my hair for five years.
>> Hey, hi, brother.
Hi.
How you doin'?
Good?
Good.
You wanna cut my hair?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> He's really having a hard life, because he cannot hear anything at all.
>> (makes buzzing sounds) >> All righty.
>> Yeah?
>> You know, he's a gay person.
His sexuality, especially here in Mexico, people hate him right away.
>> Ha, ha, okay.
>> (speaks Spanish) >> Mm-hmm.
>> Sometimes, they kick him.
And I always have to go and protect him, support him.
Little bit more.
He's my brother, and I really love my brother.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Thank you.
>> (speaks Spanish) >> So just be careful.
All right, see you.
(whistle blowing) (applause) (conversing in Spanish) ¿Quién es este?
¿Quién es?
I always love soccer.
In Mexico, I become to be a soccer referee.
(shouting in Spanish) Sometimes, it's dangerous to be a referee.
If you don't have control in the game, sometimes you have problems with the players.
(conversing in Spanish) And sometimes, they get mad, and they get out of control.
(conversing in Spanish) And some referees, they get kick.
So you have to have a good control in the game.
(conversing in Spanish) And now, I'm better.
I'm in the top referees in the league where I'm working.
(conversing in Spanish) I like the adrenaline.
I don't know why.
(conversing in Spanish) !¡Juegan!
(whistle blows, crowd applauds) (train horn blaring in distance) >> "Oh, no!
We are lost," said the people.
And the priests and the sisters began praying.
"The pasta will cover our town!"
they cried.
And it certainly would have, had Strega Nona not come down the road, home from her visit.
>> And Big Anthony!
>> What is Big Anthony doing?
(knock at door) >> Who's that?
Oh, no... >> Hello!
>> Okay!
>> (growls) What are you doing?
>> Uh-oh, it's Pops!
>> What are you doing?
Come back here!
(roars playfully) (laughs) >> Come on, guys.
I'm gonna take you upstairs.
>> Yeah, let me turn this down.
Oh, well.
>> All right, you guys go upstairs.
>> Okay.
Don't break any mirrors!
>> (laughs) What's up, Pops?
>> (sighs): The usual.
Law.
>> Whaa, whaa, whaa.
>> Lost two appeals, won one trial.
So, how's Marcos doing?
>> Well, as far... yeah, so as far as Marcos's case is concerned, the lawyer basically told me everything was the same from before, about how the chances are remote.
And, we have to wait pretty much ten years, and it's still gonna be hard at the ten-year point.
>> What's happening with Canada?
>> Well, nothing right now, because I've got too much stress in my life to deal with looking for a job there, when really I feel like this is gonna work out.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I really...
I know they say don't put all your eggs in one basket, but I have all my eggs in this basket.
Like, I feel like it's gonna work.
I just don't know when is the thing.
So... >> Canada sounds good.
How about Australia, have you... >> Yeah, it's so easy to say that.
It's so easy to be, like, "Oh, yeah, just move to Canada, move to Australia where you don't know anyone, don't have a job, don't have a whole bunch of money."
Like, oh, yeah, it's so simple.
>> I, I only mention Australia because your sister's already looked it out.
>> I looked into a lot of different countries for social work, and what their requirements are and everything.
And it's just, it's literally, like, I can't mentally...
I can't take it anymore.
I had to stop.
>> Okay.
>> I had to stop.
I just mentally was, like, not taking it.
I couldn't deal.
>> So, are you looking for jobs in the U.S. now?
>> No.
>> Post grad?
>> No, no, that's what I'm saying.
I'm giving myself until April 15, because I don't know where we're going to be living or anything.
And then another thing is is I graduate in May.
My G.I.
Bill is done in May.
That means I'm done.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, so.
I have zero idea of what is happening, because I don't know if we're going to Mexico.
I don't know if I'm going to be looking for jobs in Canada.
I don't know if I'm going to be looking for jobs here.
I don't know if he's going to be here; I have no idea.
So, it's really hard to, like, plan anything what I'm gonna do.
Because I don't know yet.
>> You've always had contingencies for everything.
I mean, this is the first time you haven't had a contingency.
>> Yeah.
>> So, what you're telling me is you're just too stressed to keep doing what you've been doing the past three years.
>> Yep.
(car horn honking) I'm getting ready to graduate Cleveland State University Saturday.
Woo-hoo!
And, um, I actually feel really good about it, because I had some major accomplishments while I was there.
I was, um, in the running for CLASS-- College of Liberal Arts and Social Sciences-- valedictorian.
There was about 30, I think there was about 30 students.
Maybe a handful more or a handful less, but I didn't get it.
But just the fact that, you know, I was in that pool of students is just awesome to me, especially since I didn't even graduate high school.
And, um, I did, um, the School of Social Work gave me the student's... Social Work Bachelor Field Student of the Year award for 2014.
But Marcos isn't gonna be here.
He just knows what I tell him on the phone.
He hasn't physically seen all the work I had to do.
And so, like, it's... to me, it's, like, such a big accomplishment, but, I mean, to him, it's a big accomplishment for me, too, but just the fact, he doesn't really know the whole scope of it... That's a little hard, 'cause I wish he was there.
(car horns honking) ("Pomp and Circumstance" playing) >> Yeah, they're doing the graduates first.
>> Okay.
>> Hey, Bia!
Wait, do you see me?
Over here, Ma!
All the cards, Ma!
Hey, Bia!
>> Good afternoon.
It's my sincere honor to welcome all of you to the commencement ceremony.
I invite each graduate to reflect on those individuals whose support was essential on your journey to graduation.
I ask the class of 2014 to stand and give a round of applause to those who helped you reach this moment.
(crowd cheering) Let me ask you to hold your applause as I talk about Elizabeth Perez.
After earning her G.E.D.
in 1998, Elizabeth Perez served our country for ten years in the Ohio National Guard and as an active-duty Marine.
Her service was highly decorated, marked by her devoted voluntarism.
In 2008, she enrolled at Cleveland State University to pursue a college education, and she graduates today with her bachelor's degree in social work.
I note that throughout her time at Cleveland State, she has been the primary caregiver for her two young sons.
Today, on Mothers' Day, they watch their mom become a college graduate.
Join me in thanking these veterans for their service and sacrifice to our country.
(train horn blaring) >> Bruchim ha-baim.
Welcome, everyone.
Blessings to all of you who come here on Yom Kippur for our annual social action lecture.
>> By show of hands, how many of you immigrated to this country?
Keep your hands up.
How many of your parents immigrated to this country?
Wow.
Okay, I think just about every hand in the room is up.
I knew that it was a Jewish issue, that it, that it was an issue that affected so many Americans and so many Jews.
We are not far-removed from immigration, even if we're not affected by the current immigration laws.
I know that we are, as Jews, commanded in the Torah to love the stranger.
But today's American immigration problem only made sense to me in terms of policy and numbers.
I knew that 12 million people live in the shadows.
I know that they don't have documentation.
I know that our immigration system, therefore, is broken.
I know that our border is a mess.
I know we need more work visas.
We need family reunification, so immigration reform is big, and today, we're going to hear from Elizabeth Perez.
Her family is one of the millions affected in this country by our broken immigration laws.
Elizabeth inspires me.
I want to be like her.
She fights for her family and is incredibly courageous.
She's so courageous that she's never been to a synagogue before today, but was willing to come and speak to us, so I hope you'll join me in welcoming her.
>> Thanks, Joy.
>> Yeah.
(audience applauds) >> Thank you so much for inviting me to be here on the most holy day, Yom Kippur.
I'm truly honored.
My name's Elizabeth.
I'm your neighbor.
I literally live five minutes down the street, right down Green Road in Cleveland Heights.
We don't have a huge undocumented immigrant population in Beachwood, so before I met my husband, I really wasn't aware of a lot of things, probably like a lot of other people in our neighborhood, in our community, aren't aware.
To me, it was just a political problem.
I didn't really understand the realities.
I'm, like, "Well, people can apply.
Why don't they just apply like everybody else who comes here?"
That's what I thought.
But not everybody can do that.
Or, I thought, "Well, if somebody is married, "and they have kids, they can stay here, so what's the big deal?"
But I was wrong about that, too.
It's such an intricate system that there was a lot of things that I thought were real, but really aren't.
So I got out of the Marine Corps, I decided to start my new life in California.
I had a sister there.
I wasn't looking to meet anybody, anything like that, but that's when those types of things happen, when you're not looking for it.
When you're looking for something, you can never find it.
When you don't want it, it just opens the door and hits you in the face, like, and that's what my husband did.
He opened the door and hit me in my face and was, like, "Bam, I'm here."
I fell over, I was, like, "Oh, I love you!
This is great."
And when I became pregnant, like most women, I wanted to be around my mom and my sisters and my cousins who had kids.
So, I said to him, "I wanna go back to Cleveland, where my family is.
So, let's go back there to have the baby."
And, I knew his immigration status was he didn't have papers, but to me, it was just, from what I thought, growing up over here, was, "Oh, we just get a lawyer, fill out some papers, give them some money, fill some more papers, give them more money, and...
It'll all work out."
Unfortunately, I was totally dead wrong.
Eventually, he got a job at a janitorial company, and I started going to CSU to use my G.I.
Bill, and we were just living life, you know, doing great stuff.
And then I finally ended up having our son that January.
And, come that June, I was pregnant again.
I told Marcos about it.
He was really excited.
I was excited, but I was also a little sick at that point, so I went and took a nap with the baby.
He went to work, and then the phone rang.
It was Mayfield Heights Police Department, and they said, "We have this guy.
Who is he?
Where's he going?
Where do you guys live?
What's his Social Security number?"
I was, like, "I don't know.
I don't know what his Social is."
I was, like, "Oh, I don't know where it is, I can't find his wallet."
And I realized right away they weren't going to let him out.
That's the day... that my home became a house.
I had to look at all of his stuff.
I had to look at his toothbrush.
I had to lay in the bed and smell his pillow, see his shoes at the door, and his clothes.
And I had the baby, and I was pregnant, and I'm, like, "What's gonna happen?"
And then, within a month, he was back in Mexico.
So, we packed our stuff, and we moved to Mexico City.
I didn't last four months in Mexico City.
We had no money.
Our home didn't even have power.
We didn't have a fridge to put food for the kids, or whatever.
It slowly started less and less, and I wouldn't answer the door.
I wouldn't answer the phone, because I didn't want anyone to know I speak English, because then I might be a target.
So, after two-and-a-half years, Marcos finally had his visa interview, and we were so excited about it, and he was completely denied until 2020.
Fortunately for me, I was introduced to David Leopold and Veronica Dahlberg.
I really have hope now.
And that's something so different, 'cause I've seen what they can do.
I've literally witnessed families being able to stay together and not be ripped apart because of the work that they're doing.
Now, I feel like my husband, Marcos, will be coming home soon.
I don't know how, but I have total faith it's gonna work.
For me, it's not a question of when, it's a question of if.
So, I want to thank everybody for having me here and letting me share with you.
And, um, gmar chatimah tova to everybody.
(audience applauds) (horn honks) >> Okay, Marcos.
>> Yeah.
>> So, the fact that you have this record to deal with make it extremely difficult to bring you back to the United States.
Even though, even though these are misdemeanors.
>> These are in 2001, so this is 13 years ago.
>> Right.
>> Yes.
>> I want you to understand what we're... you know, how tough this is.
>> I understand.
>> Okay.
The flip side of it is, you do have a U.S. citizen wife.
>> Yeah.
>> You do have U.S. citizen children, and you do have a daughter in California.
>> Yeah.
>> And you do have strong ties to the United States.
>> Okay.
>> But, if you had been lawfully admitted to the United States... >> Yes.
>> ...and we had this record to deal with, it wouldn't keep you, necessarily, from getting a green card.
You may have to show hardship to your wife, but you could ask for that kind of dispensation.
In other words, it isn't necessarily a deal killer.
But, you're out of the United States.
And so we've got a few different problems that we've got to deal with.
The first problem is, as you know, somebody who has been deported from the United States and re-enters the United States illegally is subject to a permanent bar.
You can't apply to come back here for ten years after your last departure.
>> Okay.
>> And even then, you'd have to apply for a waiver for the convictions.
All right?
Any questions so far?
>> No.
I mean... (sighs) No, I'm okay, but... >> Yeah, but you need to know, I mean... >> Yeah, I know what can happen, and, I just...
I'm just waiting for something... like for a milagro.
Like... >> A miracle.
>> Miracle or something happen or, like... >> Okay.
>> Because, I know what I have, what I did.
I know the laws.
I mean, kind of, like, I have to respect and go through the laws, and it can be really hard.
I know it's hard.
>> What's the difference between you today and you in 2001, like 13 years ago?
>> Oh, no.
>> Is there a different person I'm dealing with, or am I dealing with... >> No, no.
Sometimes, I show my face in the mirror, I see my face in the mirror, and I say, you know... (hisses) So stupid, man.
I mean, how stupid I was at that time.
Now... >> So, the only other possibility under the law is to simply ask the government to take a close look at your case and see if they would consider paroling you into the United States.
But you have to show very compelling humanitarian reasons.
>> Okay.
>> It's not an easy thing, and the reason that we'll pursue this avenue is because we don't have anything else at the moment.
>> No, I understand.
>> All right?
And so, the worst that can happen is that they'll say no.
That's the worst.
You're already in Mexico.
It can't get any worse than them saying no.
But at least we've tried.
>> Thank you.
>> Now, the hard part is, is to be sitting in Mexico and not being able to feel like you have any control over what's going on up here.
>> Yes.
>> I'm sure there's plenty of people running around Mexico City whispering in your ear, you know, if you, if you just hire a coyote and come back, then what are you waiting for?
Right?
>> Yes.
>> It's a serious crime to cross that border without documentation.
Especially after you've been deported more than once.
>> I'm thinking I have to do something, because I'm desperate.
But, I'm here for four years already.
I can wait a little bit more, so... >> Okay, good.
All right, so, what we're gonna do is put together a parole application to ask the government to parole you into the United States.
>> Yes.
>> What gets you back here is, Elizabeth has an amazing history... >> Yeah.
>> ...in terms of what she's done for our country.
>> Oh, I know what she did for the country, for me, for a lot of people.
She's a really... >> Yeah.
Do you need a Kleenex, or do you need a moment?
So, the application is gonna emphasize her situation, her situation with the kids, and how much she needs you back here to be in your role as father, as husband, and how much your absence is an extreme hardship on her.
Okay?
>> Yeah, that's what I want so bad.
>> I know you do.
It's what we all want.
>> I feel totally confident, we get this application put in, it's gonna be good.
He's gonna be back here.
>> You've got an amazing fighter on your side.
You've got an amazing, an amazing fighter on your side.
>> I know.
I know.
She's really good.
I know.
>> ♪ Though you're not here I feel your love living in me ♪ ♪ Though you're not here ♪ ♪ I feel your love living in me ♪ (water splashing) (Marcos singing "Guantanamera") (whistling) >> You know, when we put the petition in, I have 90 days supposedly to get an answer.
But now it's started getting close to these 90 days, and it's like, oof, we're not hearing anything.
Okay.
I have to wait and pray.
We don't wanna think about what are we gonna do.
But if my petition turned down, and I can't come back to the United States, I've been thinking to have my family in Mexico.
They have to live here with me.
All righty.
>> So, how was work?
>> It was good.
It was a lot of referees today, and I have just one today.
>> Yeah.
>> Then next week, I go back for my normal schedule.
>> Yeah?
>> So, how's everything with Pelé and Rocky?
>> They're fine.
They're in their room watching TV right now.
I'm gonna let them watch TV until dinner time, and then that's it.
Pelé had his piano lesson today.
My mom took him.
So, I mean the truth is, is, he really doesn't practice.
I should probably have him doing something like track instead of piano.
>> Oh, okay.
Well, that's good.
I was thinking about the petition.
>> Yeah?
>> And, um, I really expecting everything gets good, and I really wanna be with you.
>> I feel like we're, like, right at the top.
We just have to wait at this point.
I've been working with Veronica, gathering letters from veterans...
I mean, there's not a whole, whole lot more to do but just really kinda wait.
Veronica contacted that lady in Washington, D.C., who's, you know, trying to find out the status and trying to help push it through and everything like that.
So, hopefully we'll hear something from her this coming-up week.
>> You know what, lately I been just, like, dreaming, like, I'm with you and the babies, and now, finally, we get to the normal... our normal life.
And, I'm dreaming you're, like, playing with the babies in the park, going to eat something.
Doing a lot of stuff.
But, let's wait.
Let's see what happens, so... >> The hardest part is because we're so close, and now it's just a lot harder than before, because it's, like, now it's almost just waiting almost every day, like, we could hear something.
>> Sometimes, I don't wanna think, what about if something is negative, and I don't wanna talk about it, but I'm really in the line, like, I just wanna cross and be with you and the babies.
>> Yeah, but you can't do that.
You can't cross.
You can't even think about that, because if you do that, one, this whole five years that we've already been waiting would be for nothing.
You know, you'd get caught-- I don't wanna take that chance.
And besides, it's so much better if you're back, and you can live free, live your life free, and not have to look over your shoulder every three seconds.
I don't want you coming back in five years, six years from now.
Pelé and Rocky are, like, in middle school, and then they see you one morning and then you're gone again because you got picked up at a stop sign or something on your way to work again.
And then they have to live through all that trash again.
>> Yeah, but... >> It's almost, like, let's get it out of the way now, but at the same time, you know, I never thought it would be this long.
>> The time is killing me, like, waiting and waiting, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> I want somebody is close to me, sleep with me, love me.
I love you, Flaquita.
>> Love you, Marcos.
>> Let's see, so... let's pray and have faith, and probably soon something can happen soon.
>> Just try to keep yourself occupied, because we're almost done.
All right?
>> So just be careful, so... >> All right.
(Skype call ends) >> (sighs) (train horn blaring) ("Jingle Bells" playing) >> It's Christmastime, and Marcos isn't here yet.
We haven't heard anything about his petition, and I'm feeling totally depressed about it.
I get really, like, sad and all that stuff.
You know, I can't let anybody see that.
No one that's really close to me really knows, but it's really, really wearing on me bad.
I'm really tired of this whole situation.
Be careful with that stuff, Pelé.
>> I'm always careful.
>> All right, Pelé.
I'm going to plug it in.
>> Okay, Mommy.
Whoa!
Lights!
Lights!
Did you put the pine cones on yet?
>> Yeah.
>> Yay!
>> Put the pine cones on.
>> Okay.
You stay.
>> It's not gonna stay like that.
Put it right there.
>> Put it right here?
>> See?
>> That's much better.
Who made this, Mommy?
>> I think... you made this!
>> Yeah.
Who made this?
♪ I'm Mr.
Snow ♪ Hey!
>> Bia made that.
Go hang it up, Pelé.
>> Okay, Mommy.
>> Put the balls on.
Put them down over here.
>> Okay, Mommy.
This present is for Mommy!
Happy Christmas, Mom!
>> Who's this one for?
>> That one's for Mommy.
>> Who's this one for?
>> Daddy.
>> Who's that one for?
>> Bia.
>> What about Daddy?
What are you gonna get Daddy for Christmas?
>> I don't know.
I forgot...
Wait a second!
I have an idea!
>> What?
>> Baby Jesus!
♪ Oh, little baby Jesus ♪ (laughs) Happy Christmas, Mom!
>> Thanks, Pelé!
What is it?
(gasps): What'd you get me?
>> Pine cones.
>> (gasps) You got me pine cones?
(Pelé laughs) You're a pine cone.
>> Jesus, please, please, bring Daddy home now.
>> Why are you making jokes, Pelé?
>> I'm not making jokes.
>> So you wanted to ask Jesus to bring Daddy home?
>> I said now.
(car horn honking) (music playing on radio) >> Hello?
>> Hello.
>> Hey, David Leopold!
How's it going?
>> Um, listen.
I gotta talk to you about something.
Um, and, this is a very difficult call.
I, I got...
I got a notification this morning from ICE.
>> Yeah?
>> That they denied our petition.
>> You're kidding.
>> Hello?
>> You're kidding.
>> No, I'm not kidding.
They, they, they denied the petition, they basically... it's a very short letter, and it says that they weighed the equities, but they're not able to grant parole at this point.
Um... >> Wait, are you serious or are you joking with me?
>> No, no.
I'm not, I'm not joking.
I'm, I'm serious.
Totally serious.
>> No, you're... you're joking with me, right?
>> Elizabeth.
I would not joke about something like this.
I'm totally serious.
I'm sorry, but I am totally serious.
>> Wait.
Are you telling me they actually denied the petition?
>> Um, yeah.
They denied it.
And it was denied apparently on February 6.
So... >> Like, you're telling me right now that they denied the petition.
Right?
That's what you're telling me?
Like, seriously?
Like, they seriously denied it?
>> They denied it, yes.
I am not joking about this.
I, I would never, ever joke about something like this.
Yes, they denied it.
And that doesn't mean that there may not be other remedies, but you need to know, and I wanted Marcos to know, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna put it in writing, and this is what I think, okay?
Um, I would like to, to arrange a meeting.
I'd like to get together so that we can go over exactly what's gone on here, and exactly what the, what the options are.
Um... okay?
>> No, you gotta be joking me right now.
Like, I totally, totally am not hearing this.
Like, they totally did not deny this petition.
I mean, you really gotta be joking right now.
Like, I'm so pissed right now.
I'm really pissed.
I really just... whoever denied the petition, I want them to come to my house for five minutes.
I wanna kill them.
I'm gonna kill them.
I cannot believe they seriously, seriously, seriously denied the petition.
For what?
What was their actual reason why they denied it?
>> I mean, they did say that they recognize the evidence that we presented, but on a balance, they denied it.
Um, I mean, my preference would be, of course, to tell you in person.
But I needed you to know right away.
I, I need Marcos to know.
Okay?
>> Mmm.
>> Tell you what, um, take care driving.
Please give me a call when you get home, okay?
All right.
(Marcos's car engine revving) >> (groans) Elizabeth called me to give me the bad news about my petition get denied.
But I was expecting to get positive news, because we are really being planning our life for the future to be together.
So, it was really a sad day.
I start feeling like I don't wanna talk with nobody.
I just wanna be inside, but I start thinking, "You know what?
You have to accept it, Marcos.
Life is like that.
It's the way how it is, and it's real."
So, I have to go forward.
I fully think now...
I still can't have my family, my kids, everything.
Why not?
So, now I'm really thinking, like, we're gonna get together pretty soon in Mexico.
(sighs) (engine revs) (car horn honking in distance) >> Hey, Elizabeth.
So good to see you.
>> You, too.
>> The last time we talked, it was a pretty tough conversation.
>> Yep.
>> What we tried to do, you know, when we got into this, you said to me that if you don't try it, if you don't try, you won't know that you tried everything.
You have done everything.
>> No.
I cannot say that.
>> Well... >> I refuse to say that, 'cause he's not here.
>> But you have done everything so far-- so far.
It doesn't mean you won't continue to do things.
Let's talk about where we're going to go from here.
>> Okay.
>> Okay?
Um, continuing to pursue this on Capitol Hill with, with Ohio senators.
But also, there's been a change in your, in your status.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Right?
From the Veterans Administration.
>> Well, they increased my anxiety rating, my service-connected percentage, to 80%.
And it was at 30.
>> Okay.
Disa... disability rating.
>> Yeah.
You could use that word.
>> Okay.
Well, I mean, it's important, not because...
I don't think anybody who knows you is ever gonna claim that you, you've stood in any disability.
Your strength speaks for itself.
>> Yeah, and, what they did was, they changed my anxiety rating to a much higher level, which ended up bringing the entire percentage up.
>> All right.
>> And...
Although, I mean, it's really clear, even in my records that, um, although it's, you know, started from when I was in the Marine Corps, but that this entire situation has agitated it up to that level.
>> Okay.
>> I feel like that could be a strong player in this reconsideration.
>> And, so, asking for reconsideration.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Pointing out that in fact your, you know, disability rating has increased as a result of the anxiety related to this deportation and this separation from Marcos, and the children, and everything you're dealing with.
>> Yeah.
>> This is clearly affecting your life.
But you know what?
Here's the thing.
I'm gonna need you and Marcos to both be invested in this, too.
>> It's not so easy, though.
>> No, I know.
I know.
But, you take your mental break, but you've gotta, you know, you've gotta get back to where you were.
And, it's easy for me to say that, I know, but... >> It's been five years.
I'm not gonna lose my marriage over this fight.
My marriage could be in crumbles.
Like, this is ridiculous.
I'm not going to keep fighting this and then look back and it's been nine years.
You know?
>> Well, we also have to face the very realistic possibility that, you know, at some point, we have to go to another plan.
And, legally speaking, that other plan, at this point, is, is, you know, waiting for those five years to pass and bringing him back.
>> I'm not waiting five years.
>> Okay.
But I want to be honest with you, that is the next thing.
>> This whole thing is just crap.
They wanna have this permanent bar for ten years.
That's a huge chunk of time.
So, when he comes back, I'll be in my 40s.
My sons will be ten and nine-- pretty much got one foot out the door already.
And that's when we're gonna start our life together?
Everybody says the system is broken, and then in the meantime, my family is paying for this broken system.
It's ridiculous.
(car horns honking) >> You know we've been working with Elizabeth on her case.
You know her husband was deported in 2010.
I want everyone to know that the petition was denied to bring her husband back.
So, what this means is, are we just gonna give up?
>> No.
>> Okay, are we gonna leave it like that and just say, "Oh, it was denied.
Too bad"?
>> No.
>> Okay, so what we gotta do is, we're gonna do a march.
(audience applauds) And I want Elizabeth to hear from you guys, because she's counting on us.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> This is the only hope.
What did the lawyer say when you talked to him?
>> He said I need to wait five more years, and then we can apply to get him back.
>> So, the only hope Elizabeth has right now is with us and HOLA.
But, it's gonna be hard.
So please, everybody, we gotta give it all we got.
On May 4, the reason why is because if the media comes on May 4, it's gonna be in the papers, hopefully, on Cinco de Mayo.
And the people can see, Cinco de Mayo, while you're enjoying your margaritas and your sombrero, think about all the people in our community who are suffering with this broken immigration system.
Just contemplate that.
And so, for this march for Elizabeth, because it's such a tough case, we're gonna need double the people.
Okay, everybody raise your hand, who's gonna participate in this march for them.
Okay.
>> Una fuerte aplaus para todos y gracias.
>> Thank you.
(audience applauds) Okay.
6:00 a.m. Maybe-- can we do 7:00?
Yeah, okay.
7:00.
(laughter) So, let's make sure that we bring Elizabeth's husband back on May 4.
¿Sí?
>> Sí.
>> Okay.
Ay, esto fue muy débil.
That was weak!
(laughter) Let's make sure we get Elizabeth's husband back.
>> (louder): !¡Sí!
>> Are we gonna wait five years?
>> No!
(people conversing in Spanish) >> Gracias a todos por estar aquí hoy.
Thank you to everybody for being here today.
We need a miracle.
>> Yeah!
>> And so we're gonna sacrifice a little bit by walking the 20 miles and hope that our pleas are heard.
>> Woo-hoo!
(drums beating) >> Okay, the first rule is, we're gonna walk together, not separate, because, um, I'm always the last one, and I don't want to be, like, all the way in the back.
So, Elizabeth, you want to say some words?
>> Okay.
>> Elizabeth!
Whoo!
>> Okay.
My husband, Marcos, is on the phone, and that's how I live my life, with him on my side but at the phone.
I wanna say thank you to every single person here.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you to come out here to help for my family, too.
Yo se que tienen que...
I was really down after Marcos's parole was denied.
I know a lot of people are missing work...
But I'm back, and we are ready to roll.
I don't like words, I like action.
Thank you to HOLA.
HOLA is the only reason I have hope for my family.
The only reason I feel my husband is gonna come home is solo HOLA.
>> Okay, well, let's get on the sidewalk and get in formation.
>> We have David Leopold, the lawyer is out here.
My mom's here.
My mom's ready to walk 21 miles.
>> Elizabeth, we've got to turn left.
>> My cousin Davey flew in from Utah just to come to this march.
>> Elizabeth, we gotta follow the sign for 20.
>> The weather is beautiful out here.
There is a chance of thunderstorms, but I have total faith that we're gonna make it.
We got almost 100 HOLA warriors organized, ready to do this march from Mentor, Ohio, to St. Casimir's to ask Our Lady of Czestochowa to bring my family back.
Well, why can't my husband be here?
We're in this to win this.
That's how I feel.
It's too long.
It's five years.
It's way too much time.
>> (chanting): Sí se puede.
Sí se puede.
Sí se puede!
>> People have brought their kids out here and have baby strollers, and they're ready to walk.
This walk is gonna take us all day long, and I'm very humbled and proud of all of the Mexican community that's out here.
I've been there for their family when it was a threat of a deportation, and those families are out here today.
>> Yes, we can!
>> We're gonna draw attention to my family and get people in power to bring Marcos home.
(man speaking Spanish) (crowd cheering) It's getting darker out here.
Rain clouds are forming above us.
We felt a little light drizzle, but we can hear the bells of St. Casimir's ringing, and we are gonna make it.
>> Yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
>> I love you, Dada.
>> Are you happy?
>> Yeah.
Daddy, why are you not here now?
I want you to be here now, now, now.
>> One day we're gonna be together!
That's the good part.
>> I miss you.
I want you to come back now.
>> Pelé?
Just remember Daddy loves you.
I miss you, Pelé.
I wanna, I wanna, I wanna go back and go drop you in the school and go after school and go play with you.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> How do you feel when you see your friends with, with their dads?
How do you feel?
>> Huh?
Their dads are in Ohio.
>> Oh, really?
>> You are the only dad who's in Mexico.
>> How do you feel about, like, you're there, and I'm here?
>> Bad.
Hate it.
Why is your daddy in Mexico, and I'm in Ohio?
That's bad.
Very, very, very bad.
>> Don't play with your food, Pelé.
>> Other kids have their dad.
(crying): But I don't have my dad.
>> Pelé, I love you.
>> (crying): Mommy!
Mommy!
I want Daddy!
(crying) Daddy!
>> Pelé.
We will be together, Pelé.
I'm gonna see you so much.
>> Daddy!
♪ ♪ (car horns honking) ♪ ♪ (men singing in Spanish) (men singing in Spanish) >> What do you feel like?
What do you want to eat?
>> I want those tamales from that guy who puts the whole drumstick in the tamale.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You know who I'm talking about?
>> Yeah.
>> By your grandma's?
We gotta go over there.
>> Yeah, let's go.
We can go.
Just let, um, I gotta go take a shower.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Before we go there.
>> Oh, okay.
>> And... Yeah.
Oh, tomorrow, before I forget, like I, we gotta go play soccer.
I gotta go play soccer.
You wanna go with me?
>> Yeah.
I'm not gonna stay here by myself!
>> Yeah.
How about, like, if you wanna go, like, to the pyramids?
>> Or dancing?
>> Go dancing.
>> Or take, or take me out to eat?
>> Yeah.
>> On a date?
>> Yeah.
>> And the movies?
>> We can go.
We can go out with my sister.
>> No, but...
There's been something I need to tell you.
Um, I'm here in Mexico, I've been here for a little while, and I just found out me and Marcos are having another baby.
(groans) I was here a little while ago, and I hadn't seen Marcos in almost two years, and... We had so much fun.
We did not plan for this to happen at all, but we didn't prevent from it to happen, either.
But, to be totally honest, at the end of the day, I was completely shocked that, you know, this is real, that we're really having another baby.
And, um, it changes a lot of things.
We got a whole 'nother life to think about.
It's almost like a second chance.
We can have this baby and raise it together.
I'm gonna stay in Cleveland and have the baby there, for insurance purposes.
And then, I'm really, really hoping Marcos can come back before this baby's born.
But if he's not, then we have a whole lot to think about.
It feels so weird to be here without Pelé and Rocky.
>> Yes.
>> So, by the time this baby is born, no matter what, if I gotta move, if you're not in the United States, I'm coming to Mexico, because there's no way I'm having another baby by myself.
I did Pelé by myself, Rocky all by myself, and I'm definitely not doing it by myself again.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> The truth of the matter is, is that when we come here, you really gotta understand how it is with them all the time, like, long-term.
You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> And then, and then I... Talking about that depending on where we're gonna live, where we're gonna move.
I mean I, I like that apartment, but I don't wanna stay in that apartment with Pelé, Rocky, and another baby, where every time we gotta go outside, one of us has to go outside with them, really you.
So, um, it's something you really gotta, really, really...
I know it's hard, because you're not with them all the time, but you gotta think of it in that angle, too.
Like, more realistic.
Not just, like, it's so simple.
>> Yeah.
>> It's not as simple as that.
It's actually kinda complicated.
With them.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, if we move to Mexico, I mean, I'm hoping that's not what happens, but if that's what happens... >> I like that picture.
>> Yeah.
>> Nice picture.
>> We really got to really, really have a plan.
You know, we're not just gonna come down here and throw Pelé in whatever school and be, like, "Oh, he's a big boy, he can figure it out."
No, I don't wanna do that.
I wanna find something that's gonna be comfortable for them, too.
Not just, "Oh, they're kids.
They can figure it out on their own.
Kids are strong.
I had to figure stuff I out when I was young."
That's what they call the dinosaur mentality.
So, I wanna do for them... like, for me, them is my priority about moving to Mexico.
Not us and what we want.
>> It's really hard to think about.
>> Oh, shoot.
These are the pictures of the 43 students that disappeared.
>> Yeah.
>> That's what all of these are for?
>> Yeah.
Yeah.
>> That's crazy.
They still don't know what happened to them?
>> No.
>> So, what do you want to do now?
>> What do you feel like?
You know, Elizabeth, the baby's going to be here next year.
When you planning to come to Mexico?
I bet you it's going to be until June next year, July or more.
And it's gonna extend a little, little, and then it's going to be the same thing all the time.
"Wait for me."
Two years.
"Wait for me."
Three years.
And I'm in jail.
Do you know how it feels?
Why we gotta be like that?
I mean, I'm with you hundred percent already.
Five years, going for six years.
What are you gonna do, wait another four, five years?
>> Yeah, but Marcos, I... Just stop, like, "I'm tell you this, this, this, this, and that."
I was on...
I keep telling you.
I'm on the same thing.
I'm going through the same crap as you.
It's not like I'm sitting here, "Okay, Marcos.
Wait three months so I can sit here in America and eat pancakes all (bleep) day."
I'm on the same damn thing as you, where I feel so bad, "Oh, this is about to happen.
He's about to come home."
(sighs) You're not the only one waiting, being good and all that crap.
I do the same crap!
>> I don't care.
I want family.
Really, I mean, that's what I want.
I want somebody's close to me, sleep with me, love me.
Like those, those, those...
I... nobody told me, "I love you," or how much I want to be with you in my life except Pelé and Rocky.
So, when you don't catch all the stops, like, I'm not innocent.
I'm not stupid.
I'm not the king.
I'm not the best one.
But I'm one of the few...
I want to have a family, to be responsible, to be a dad, to be next to you.
That's what I want.
I don't care anymore anything.
If you wanna be in Australia, wherever, let's do it.
You wanna wait somewhere?
Let's do it.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I don't care.
You know time kills everything?
You're gonna be better, you go down another road.
What's the problem, man?
What's the problem?
I know that feeling already.
I don't wanna get old and not having nobody, my kids already grown and all the stuff.
No.
So, let's see next year, are we together, we not together, or I don't know.
>> No.
♪ ♪ (woman singing in Spanish) (woman singing in Spanish) >> It's gonna be a long day today, because Congressman Jim Jordan is doing free haircuts for veterans on Veterans' Day.
So, my quest to bring Marcos back here is taking me to a whole 'nother place, and sometimes I question, like, if it's even worth it.
I don't care.
I have to push myself and do it, which is what I'm doing right now.
Jordan is actually a Tea Partier.
So, uh...
Normally they're more not for immigration or anything that has to do with it at all.
A lot of people have a vision that Democrats are more compassionate or helpful, but that's a bunch of crap.
It's not true at all.
And Republicans, supposedly everyone thinks they're just white supremacists or something, but a lot of them have helped with so many cases to bring... make sure undocumented immigrants have not been deported and have stepped in to stop it.
So it's, like, which one is it?
I don't really care.
I just know that Congressman Jordan might be a Tea Partier.
He's still also a human being.
I'm just gonna talk to him like, "What if I was your daughter?"
I don't want a damn haircut.
I want my husband home.
(train horn blaring) Well, here we are, parking spots and all.
Whew, all right.
Hopefully he's here, and hopefully they do women's hair.
Maybe he'll just think I'm a veteran's spouse and not an actual veteran, because I'm a woman.
Down those stairs.
>> Well, we got one more here somewhere... >> Hey.
Number 21?
>> You want me to cut your hair?
>> Yeah-- ready for me?
>> I've never cut a woman's hair before.
>> Are you for real?
>> I'm serious.
Never, ever.
>> How do we get free haircuts?
>> Yeah, that, that might not be a good idea.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
Never, ever.
>> How about a shave?
>> No.
>> Thanks for being honest.
>> Yeah.
Absolutely, no problem.
>> You're the first lady we've had.
>> Really?
>> You serve in, in the Army?
Marine Corps?
What... Navy?
>> Both, Army and Marine Corps.
>> Yeah.
>> You remember meeting me in your office in, in D.C.?
With Veronica?
>> Oh, that's right.
Sure, that's why.
Yes, I do.
>> Yeah, and you came in and talked to us personally.
>> Yeah.
>> And I remember at that time, I was getting ready to put in a petition for my husband.
You... is it coming back to you?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Well, it was denied.
>> And were you, did we meet with you in Norwalk?
>> Ah, nope.
I haven't been in Norwalk.
>> Okay, so you, you were in our office in D.C. >> Yeah, mm-hmm.
>> Yeah, okay.
>> Well, that's a little separate than what I wanted to talk to you about.
>> Okay.
>> As you can see... >> Yeah?
>> I'm kind of in a hurry... >> Yeah.
>> ...for my husband to get back here.
>> Yeah.
>> So, um, I know we talked about it, like, a year-and-a- half ago, or about a year ago, but I'm hoping, I'm gonna be putting in a new application, and so I'm hoping maybe you can help me with it.
>> Okay.
>> Endorse it, help me get it... >> And, your husband is in... been sent to... >> Mexico.
>> Back to Mexico, right.
Right, okay.
>> Been almost six years.
>> Yeah.
>> That's how long this struggle has been going on.
>> Yeah.
>> He can apply in 2020.
>> Okay.
>> But, I need him back here, like, yesterday.
>> Yeah.
>> And now we're having another baby.
And I really, really need somebody... >> Mm-hmm.
>> ...and I'm hoping it's you, to help me to get him back here.
Because I get so much lip service.
>> Okay.
We'll, we'll, we'll look at it.
>> Maybe he'll do something to help Marcos.
Maybe not.
>> Is there certain paperwork that you have to give us, or file, or... we got all the information we need, for our office to look at?
>> Well, I can get it to you, because I'm gonna file a new humanitarian visa, because the last one...
I'm glad I came.
I need to keep trying.
You can refile another one.
>> We gotta look at the whole history and look at the file... >> You're looking at a lot of history.
>> Yeah, I understand.
And we're looking at someone who served our country, and we certainly appreciate that.
So, we'll take a look at it.
>> And I would definitely appreciate that a lot more than a haircut.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay?
I understand.
Thank you so much.
>> Nice to meet you, by the way.
I'm gonna steal a doughnut.
>> I'm Dick Behr.
>> Oh!
(dog barking) >> Women service members must work three times as hard to be seen as equal to our male counterparts.
"Good afternoon, Congressman Jordan and staff.
Last week, I read an article calling for Ohio veterans to come get a haircut paid for by the congressman.
Unfortunately, the article did not state that it was a male-only barber, and women vets would not be able to get a cut.
I felt that ever-too-familiar sting of a reality that a Congress member, who represents an entire area of people, only represents whom they choose-- in this case, male veterans.
This is not a simple mistake, but reflects the fact that our sacrifices are not considered equal, whether it's subconsciously or not.
Yesterday, I traveled three hours from Cleveland to Bluffton.
Like all of the veterans there, I did not go for the free haircut.
I went for an opportunity to speak to the congressman about an issue: my husband who was deported in 2010.
However, I feel disrespected that my decade of service is not even worth a haircut because I'm a woman.
It is not even the cut, it's the blatant disregard of an entire group of veterans' sacrifices.
I almost did not say anything, since I want the congressman to help me with my husband's return to our family, yet I am still a Marine and still live by those values which compel me to speak above everything else.
Yesterday's event was wrong and disregarded the service of over two million veterans, the amount of female vets in the U.S.
I hope that in the future, veterans' events will be inclusive of all, not just what some think a veteran is.
I will be sending you a copy of my petition for my husband in the next week for your review.
I hope that you can find a way to advocate for this veteran and my family.
Thank you for your time in this matter.
Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns."
Send.
(mouse clicks) (door opening) >> Mom.
It's... noisy upstairs.
>> Get your ass upstairs, boy.
>> Yeah.
>> I swear to God.
I am really pissed off at you.
Rocky!
>> No!
>> Get your butt upstairs now!
And I am not telling you again!
Up there now!
You are out of control!
Get up there and sit down!
Quiet!
(train horn blaring) I am currently in my third trimester, and you know how people say girls are different?
This pregnancy has been way different than the last two, but really, the weird thing is, because of everything that's going on with Marcos, I'm so anxious all the time about this whole situation, you know, when the baby's gonna be born being the deadline.
Like, living together in Mexico or going our separate ways if we weren't gonna work out and be together.
So, I've got less than two months, and then she'll be here.
(baby fussing) >> Hey!
>> Hey, Dora!
What's going on?
How are you?
>> Pretty good.
>> Congratulations on the citizenship!
>> Thank you.
>> How's it feel?
>> It feels great.
Thank you, come on in.
>> Sure.
>> It was amazing, because that same court was gonna decide whether I was deported or stayed.
>> Yeah.
>> So, it was amazing walking out of there five years later, being a U.S. citizen.
>> In the same building.
>> The same building.
>> I'm so happy for you.
>> How's Marcos's case going?
>> It's going.
I mean, it's just, it's, um, that's a battle, too.
Like, the same thing I'm saying.
It's, like, how much, how many hoops do you have to jump through, you know, for your family to be together?
Like, I put in a visa application for him for the humanitarian parole last year.
You know, it was denied.
I put in another one this year, it was denied.
I just mailed in another one again.
I'm, like, I'm just gonna keep sending them.
>> Do you think you would go back to Mexico if they denied it again?
>> I don't think I have a choice anymore.
If I keep staying here, and he keeps staying there, then it's not gonna work.
Not that neither one of us would want it to, but it's like already, this summer's gonna be six years.
>> Uh-huh.
>> So, it's, like, I feel like, if they're not gonna approve it, then I, I need to move there.
>> Yep.
So, basically in order to save your family... >> Yeah.
>> You have to move.
>> Yeah.
That's, that's what I think.
And my husband's always been pressuring me a lot, like, I gotta move there.
>> Uh-huh.
>> But I don't want to move to Mexico City.
I told him that.
I don't wanna live there.
You hear, like, the travel department putting out warnings right for where my husband lives, and then he makes me paranoid about not wanting me to speak English on the street, because it's a target, and he's been, you know, like, on the bus, you know, they... People come on and rob the entire bus when he's been on the bus a couple of times.
I don't wanna worry about my kids walking home from school, somebody, like, takes them.
And I don't know if, like, sometimes I don't know if I, like, go too much into that, like, thinking that, or it's really...
I feel like it's a valid worry, you know?
>> I think it is, because if I go down there for two or three weeks, we watch out for the same things.
Like, we're just down there on vacation, um, and we're always watching.
Like, my son, I'll be, like, "Shh, don't sp..." I'll be, like, the same way.
>> Yeah?
>> Because I'm paranoid.
Because they are.
There's people that are just watching, and they do things.
>> Yeah.
>> The danger and the kidnappings and all of that are out of hand.
They'll kill you for 20 pesos down there.
>> Jeez.
That's not even two dollars.
>> I think Marcos loves his kids so much, and he's afraid, because he sees how things are.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, if you were just Mexican, lived there your whole life, I think they wouldn't care about you.
But, for you to be American and go down there... >> Mm-hmm.
>> You're, like he says, a target right away.
For somebody like me or the kids who were raised up here, we're a target, because they feel like, "Oh, they have more family in the U.S. We can kidnap them and get money."
>> So, you agree with me, like, you would feel the same way, like, you don't know if you want to take your kids there, too.
>> No, I... well... (sighs, clears throat): When he was almost deported, when Luis was almost deported, I was the same way.
Like, I would flip-flop and be, like, "Well, we can just... we can make it work."
>> Yeah.
>> But no.
You just don't have that security.
My sister, when I went last time, she was, like, "You don't hold him like this, Dora, because they can slip, they can just slip him right out.
You hold him like this.
If they try to pull him from you, you, it'll be harder for them to snatch him."
>> Wow.
I get really nervous, like, if something happened to my kids.
Like I think any woman does.
>> If you live in Mexico City, you're basically putting your whole family at risk.
It's, like, taking a broken family and just dealing with it here, but taking your... or, taking your entire family and putting it at risk in a really dangerous place.
That's a tough sit... that's a tough, tough decision.
>> I feel like... you know, something I think about a lot is, like, you bel... you know, you're spiritual, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Like, God doesn't care, like, where you're at.
It's just, the most important thing is, like, having your family unit and being together, right?
>> Uh-huh.
>> So, sometimes I feel like, by me staying here, am I, like, withholding from our family unit by not going there?
That's something, like, I struggle with, like, internally.
You know what I'm saying?
>> I think, at the, in the long run, you just gotta do whatever you feel is best for your family and just try it.
Because you guys have to be together.
You've struggled too much on your own, and I think you deserve that.
You're in a tough, tough situation.
>> Well, I'm glad you're out of yours, Dora.
>> Yeah.
But it's crazy how I had to become a U.S. citizen, and you're already a U.S. citizen, and a Marine.
You still have to put this big fight.
>> Yeah.
♪ ♪ >> Hello?
>> I'm right here!
>> Oh, look at you!
>> Yup, yup.
>> See Gorgey Georgie?
>> Wow.
She's just getting big.
>> Yeah.
She got, she got big fast, huh?
(Marcos calls to baby) >> So, um... >> Yeah?
>> We got a lot to talk about today.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You've talked to all the schools?
>> Yep.
>> On that whole list that we had?
So today we have to decide before we get off this phone call, like, are we staying here for an extra year?
Are we gonna come there?
>> Like right now, I want to get prepared, get my G.E.D., have it all set for the next year.
And see if I can get a job where I can have medical and you guys can move here to Mexico next year.
>> I remember us talking about, I'm always gonna have a reason, and it's gonna be this many months until we come there, and now I feel like I wanna say the same thing to you, too.
If we stay here another year, I mean, part of me feels like I want to, maybe for selfish reasons, like, because, you know, the kids' school and, like, we're comfortable with, like, the insurance and all that type of stuff.
And then another part of me is like, I just wanna have a decision, whatever we're doing, like, we do something.
You're here or we're there.
Like, I hate this, like, limbo stuff.
And we're just gonna be, like, limbo for another year.
And now, I got the V.A.
pension, so we have a better opportunity to make it moving there.
And I feel like you just flip-flop on it a lot, too.
You know, it just kinda makes me wonder, like, with this year, because coming from you, it really surprised me.
>> Yes.
>> So let me ask you this.
>> What?
>> You want me to move there, right?
I'm not talking about the babies.
I'm talking about us.
>> Yes.
Yes, Elizabeth.
For you... we are family, Elizabeth.
I don't want to just say yes for you-- for everybody.
>> I know for everybody, but I'm not talking about just our family.
I'm talking about us.
>> Yes, Elizabeth.
Family.
>> Really?
>> We are family.
We're married, right?
>> Yeah, I mean, I feel that way.
But I just gotta throw it out there, because we're going on six years, and this isn't normal.
So, we have to focus on, like, what is our plan, like, because I don't want it to be nine years and then all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, well it's been nine years already, and ..." >> Yeah.
>> I don't want, um, you know, something crazy to happen.
>> I love you.
>> Ten years, and then you finally come back here, and we're finally living together, and we've been married for, like, 12 years and living together for one of them.
You know?
You're gonna have, like, you know, you got your whole family here, and you're there by yourself.
You gotta get prepared for that, too, Marcos.
Because when we come there, we're coming there.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, it's, it's your, the way you're living now, by yourself, is gonna change.
I know you're gonna be happy about it, but I mean, you gotta recognize, too, like, next year, we're coming there.
(baby fussing, Marcos exhales) >> Ready, set, go.
>> No.
>> Come on, Pelé.
>> The pine cone game.
>> Are we going to Mexico?
Am I not going to Mexico?
The truth of the matter is, is I'm going completely, completely insane.
Come here.
And I don't know how much more of this I can take by myself.
>> You want to play rock, paper, scissors?
>> It's, like, we can't continue doing this for another three years, or a little more than three years.
And then, even still, in three years, there's a huge chance it might not even get approved, period.
I mean, he might have to live in Mexico forever.
We don't know anything.
It's, like, the, the future is this big, huge unknown.
>> I had paper.
You had scissors.
I am not enjoying this walk.
Mommy... (grunts) >> Get up right now!
You are really making me mad.
You need to stop it right now.
Do you understand me?
>> (screaming) >> You stop it.
>> (screaming) >> Gimme that.
You are misbehaving.
Don't start crying.
Look at me right now.
Look at me right now.
>> (wails) >> Stop it, right now.
>> (screams) >> Stop.
Stop it right now.
Look at me.
You are misbehaving.
You need to stop, and you're doing it on purpose.
Don't start playing games.
Stop.
Look at me.
Do not start playing games.
You will... look at me.
You will hold my hand.
Do you understand me?
>> (wailing) >> You will not say a word.
Do you got it?
>> (wailing) >> Nope, shh-- quiet.
I'm gonna squeeze it every time you cry.
No crying.
Shh, shh.
Quiet.
Shh.
Hey!
I said no crying.
>> I'm trying.
>> That doesn't matter.
♪ ♪ (sniffles) (sighs and sniffles) (sighs) Here we are again.
Oh, Mary, I don't know how much more of this I can take.
Please, please, please.
(sniffles) Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses.
We forgive those who trespass against us.
Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Please, Mary.
I really need Marcos back here.
I really need him to come back home.
I'll do whatever you want.
Whatever you guys want.
But please, can this happen soon?
I just can't take it anymore.
I try to have so much faith like it's gonna work, and I believe in you and everything.
It's just really weighing on me.
Please.
I trust you for everything.
I love you.
Amen.
Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Amen.
(sighs, sniffles) ♪ ♪ >> ♪ Thank you, oh, dear Lord ♪ ♪ For the many blessings that you always give me ♪ ♪ Thank you for your love and your Holy Spirit ♪ ♪ That is always near me ♪ ♪ While down on my knees I feel so unworthy ♪ ♪ And I cry I'm sorry ♪ ♪ And my soul rejoices ♪ ♪ Giving you the glory ♪ ♪ For all you've done for me ♪ (train horn blaring) >> I'm exhausted.
I really hope this works.
>> Yeah.
>> I know you put a lot into this, and... >> This is a lot of sacrifice on a lot of people's part.
My parents, you, Hilda, Stephanie.
Very costly, and I'm really hoping that it works and Marcos comes home.
>> Won't that be amazing if they let him in?
>> Yeah.
>> But wait, you didn't get him a ticket back, so what are you gonna do?
>> Drive.
>> Drive?
How?
>> Yeah.
We would drive home.
So, here we are in McAllen, Texas, and we're in McAllen, Texas, for one reason, 'cause we're gonna bring Marcos home.
Take a couple of days.
We're gonna do it in a different way than how we've been attempting the humanitarian parole before.
>> I could reach out to the Mexican consulate.
>> What we've been doing is sending it to ICE, and it's five times I've sent it to them, but it's been denied.
It does seem like a long shot.
I spoke to a lawyer, and she informed me we can go to the U.S .-Mexican border, Marcos would have to come up with the petition, and present it to Border Patrol, and Border Patrol would then have the discretion to let him come into the country or, of course, deny the petition.
It's like a shot in the dark.
But if there's a chance for Marcos to come home, I want to do it.
Me and Veronica looked it up, and there's not a whole lot of information about, can this really work?
So, we're kind of out on a little bit of a limb with this attempt.
>> I really hope they let him in.
They've got to do the right thing and let him in.
>> My daughter simply fell in love with a man in America, and the government told her that they needed their approval for him to live with her.
I find that very bizarre.
>> Where's our car at?
>> Marcos, he's hard-working, and the only thing that any father asks of a son-in-law is, do you love the children?
And he's a great lover of his children.
And the separation I have seen over the past six years has not worked well for the family.
Now we're down at Border Patrol, trying to convince them to let Marcos into the country.
>> So, where are we going now?
>> We gotta go to the car rental place.
>> Then we'll have a little meeting tonight to discuss our plans.
>> Yeah.
>> I just got a call this morning from the Mexican consulate here in McAllen, Texas, and it's horrible.
Horrible news.
They reached out to the Border Patrol, and were told that if Marcos shows up at the checkpoint so that we could submit his petition, that he will be arrested and detained and held for up to two years.
This is shocking, because we were told that we could do this.
It's unbelievable.
This could have been a disaster.
I hate to have to give him the news, though.
You know what I mean?
Like... >> Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
>> How do you think he's gonna take it?
>> I don't know.
I don't know.
>> It's a super-cruel, harsh punishment.
>> He's gonna be upset, but he's gonna be so happy to, like, see everybody at the same time.
It's gonna be really important for him to see my dad.
>> Yeah.
>> Really, really, really, Veronica, that's the big thing.
>> I know.
Take it easy.
Don't stress too much.
>> (exhales) Okay, yo puedo entrar?
Can I go in now?
Sí?
Yes?
>> Hi, Veronica.
>> Hola.
¿Cómo estás?
>> How are you?
>> Good.
I'm so sorry.
Marcos... >> No, that's... >> We did not get the petition approved.
We did not get it approved.
>> It's okay.
>> I'm sorry.
>> It's okay.
>> Mm.
>> Hello!
>> What's up?
(both laughing) I missed you so much.
>> Mm.
>> Man, look at you.
You look so good.
>> I changed my... >> I think no ladies are allowed in here.
>> I changed my shirt, like million times, 'cause it's so hot.
>> Yeah.
>> Marcos.
>> (laughing) Hey, what's up?
>> I love you.
I love you.
>> Ah, my suegra.
My mother-in-law.
Wow.
It's incredible she's here.
I remember, she cook for me and give me all the attention.
She's a really nice person.
Anyway, thanks for everything.
>> Hey.
>> So what's up, suegro?
Long time I wanna see you.
>> So, you been working at all?
>> Yeah.
I'm so happy to see my father-in-law, John.
>> Come, come with me.
>> I know he's really happy to see me.
>> You know, be nice for you to get back when we can still pick up a hammer together.
>> Yeah, sure.
We have a really good time talking about when we worked together.
But I can see he's started getting older, and he always made me laugh.
>> ...and they went and broke the real estate market... >> He's a really nice guy, and I love him so much.
>> Oh, wow.
You're so cute!
>> She's just like me.
>> No.
What's up?
You know who I am?
No?
'Cause you're looking at me like that, yeah?
You are smiling?
Where's your smile?
I'm really excited to see my daughter Georgia for the first time.
>> She's gonna eat your finger.
>> She's really tiny.
Emotionally, it's kind of complicated, because I have another daughter in California.
She's 20 years old.
And now I have Georgia, my new baby.
It remind me how depressed I get sometimes thinking about what I want for my first daughter, Daisy.
I have all these dreams, all these goals to grow, like, a family for her.
She looks exactly like me.
Now Georgia, she's leaving me, getting back to United States.
>> She looks like me.
You look like Mama, right?
>> It's difficult to live without her, without my family.
But I know, one day, we will be together.
>> All right, what time's your flight at?
>> I gotta be there early.
>> So, we're gonna go up to the bridge and cross the bridge, and then you've got your taxi coming to take you to the airport.
>> Yeah.
Progresso, Mexico, is a border town.
It's one of the toughest and dangerous states in Mexico.
>> I'm really sorry this didn't work.
But at least we tried.
>> After Elizabeth leave and go back to United States, I wanna get out of here, take my flight, and go back to Mexico City.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
Well, I think we're...
I'm gonna go straight now.
>> Yeah.
>> And I'll call you tonight.
I'll see you.
Okay?
>> See you.
Okay?
I love you.
>> Take care of yourself.
I love you.
Don't forget that.
Mm.
Next time I see you, Pelé and Rocky will be bouncing all over the place.
>> Yeah.
>> Say bye to Miss Georgia.
>> Ah.
>> All right, love you.
Take care.
All right.
Oh, my gosh.
♪ ♪ >> ♪ Thank you, oh, dear Lord ♪ ♪ For the many blessings that you always give me ♪ (car horns honking) (man speaking Spanish on radio) >> As you know, I've been depressed.
I've been stressful and anxious being away from my family.
That's why I decide to join this holistic wellness center.
One of the activities I did there is Zumba dancing.
♪ ♪ (woman giving instructions in Spanish) >> It refreshes my brain.
It moves my mind.
It makes me feel positive, active.
It makes me feel good.
(woman giving instructions in Spanish) (class cheers, Marcos laughs) (man speaking Spanish) >> I try everything there.
I take yoga...
I talk with a psychologic.
It doesn't always work.
But I try to get better.
(group singing) (group singing) (car horns honking) >> You know we've been working with Elizabeth on her case.
>> !¡Sí!
>> She's somebody who doesn't give up.
We filed the seventh petition on her case with ICE, and it was denied.
People are in HOLA, they fight their cases, and they leave.
They fight their case, they leave.
But Elizabeth is still fighting.
Six years, and she's still here.
And we've tried everything, but there's some things that are out of our control.
Like ICE and what is happening there, which... they're out of control, basically.
So, Elizabeth, do you want to say anything?
>> Yeah.
>> ¿Quieres decir algo a la gente?
>> Hello, everyone.
So, um, Veronica just gave a little bit of the update that the petition was denied again.
Seven times.
And this last time, I was for sure it was gonna get approved.
And what makes it even harder is recently we did an inquiry, and, um, they said that no matter what we do for this petition, they're just not gonna approve it.
They're not gonna approve it no matter what, is what they said.
I'm still gonna mail another one, probably next week, and we're just waiting for a letter, because I'm not gonna take that answer.
>> But, um, I'm sure a lot of people in here know how hard it is when your spouse is in another country and you just gotta try to keep it all together.
And we're in our seventh year, and it's really, really hard.
I mean, it's really hard on my husband.
It's hard for me to watch him, like, see how hard it is for him, because he's a father, and he has no opportunity to be a father.
We have three children now, and he hasn't been with any of them.
One of them for five months, that's it.
That's it.
So, that's his only opportunity he's had.
And it's really, like, draining on my entire family.
And I'm really thinking most likely that we're just gonna go there.
And I don't want anybody to feel like I'm giving up on HOLA, I'm giving up on immigration, nothing.
'Cause even when I'm there, I'm still gonna be sending petitions, I'm still gonna be doing whatever I gotta do.
But the most important thing is, I gotta have my family together, and I feel spiritually conflicted.
It shouldn't matter what land you're standing in, what house you live in, what clothes you have on the back.
You should have the people you love together with you.
But it's really hard, 'cause I moved to Mexico before, and we didn't make it.
Like, we were hungry.
And when I say hungry, I mean hungry.
So, it's, like, it was really hard.
So I've always had this conflict, for the last, like, six years.
And now I just feel like I'm called, like, I, if I cannot get him home this year, before the ki... when the kids get out of school, I gotta, I gotta do it.
I gotta make sure... that we're not divorced ten years from now.
I gotta make sure that when we have grandkids, we're all at the same table, that this stupid immigration system doesn't destroy my family, 'cause it's not gonna happen.
They're not gonna win that.
They've won this separation.
They've won a lot of things.
They're not gonna win that.
(train horn blaring) All right, listen to me, guys.
I wanna talk to you guys about Mexico, okay?
>> Yes.
>> You know we might be moving to Mexico when you get out of first grade, Pelé.
>> I'm not gonna play with my friends anymore.
>> Don't you think you'll get new friends in Mexico?
>> I, I'm really, I might get used to them.
But then...
But then how can I speak their language?
>> Well, you'll figure it out.
You're really smart, Pelé.
You're really... >> Should I copy the other kids?
>> Is that hot dog cooked?
>> Nope.
>> (laughing) Lord help you.
Lemme see that.
Let me just touch it and see if it's at least warm!
Okay.
You'll be fine.
You'll learn how to speak Spanish.
It's not that hard.
You're really smart.
You'll figure it out.
You guys are both really, really smart.
You do really good in school.
You'll do really good in school there, too.
You're just gonna have to work a little bit harder.
Okay?
Okay?
>> Yeah, but now I'm in second grade.
And I'll be in second grade next year.
>> You're gonna be in second grade in Mexico, okay?
And you're gonna go to school.
And you gotta learn how to speak Spanish, okay?
And it's probably gonna be really hard for you in the beginning.
But you'll figure it out, because you're really smart.
Okay?
>> Yeah.
>> What is gonna make you happy?
>> Playing soccer with Daddy.
>> Yeah?
Does Daddy always play soccer with you?
>> Yeah.
>> Rocky.
Come here, Rock.
Why do you not want to move to Mexico?
>> Because maybe the teacher will ask us a Mexican word, how do you say in Spanish, and we don't know what it is.
>> But you're gonna learn Spanish!
>> No.
We forget.
>> You will learn Spanish, Rocky, and you'll learn how to speak Spanish.
>> No, I don't wanna move there.
>> Why do you not wanna move there?
>> Because we, we don't want to learn any Spanish.
We forget it.
We don't know Spanish.
>> You'll learn Spanish, Rocky.
>> No!
>> Why are you so angry about going to Mexico?
>> Because the teacher will tell us what's Spanish, and me and Pelé don't know.
>> But you're gonna learn how to speak Spanish!
>> No, I'm not going to Mexico.
>> Aren't you gonna be happy to see Daddy and live with Daddy and live in the same house with Daddy?
>> If we do not go to a school.
>> But if we go to Mexico, you're gonna have to go to school in Mexico.
>> No!
>> We are going to Mexico.
>> No!
>> And you're going to school in Mexico.
>> But the schools just want Spanish.
They just want Spanish, Mexico people there, not Ohio.
And I don't know Spanish.
>> Okay, well, we're going to Mexico.
>> No!
>> We are going to Mexico.
♪ ♪ (man chanting over loudspeaker) ♪ ♪ >> What Spanish words did you guys learn today?
>> Rocky, how do you say in Spanish 49?
>> Cuarenta nueve.
>> Yeah.
>> Daddy, remember you heard me say it in the car?
I can count to a hundred.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> How you say 15?
>> Um... >> You should know.
>> 15?
>> Yeah.
>> Doce, trece, catorce, y?
>> Um... quince?
>> Yeah.
>> How about this, how about this?
Count as high as you can count.
Let me see how high you can go.
From the beginning.
>> Okay.
>> Me, too?
>> Nope.
Rocky first.
>> (counting in Spanish) >> Pelé.
>> (counting in Spanish) >> We've been in the Yucatan for a while now.
We have another baby here, so we have four children now to take care of.
So that just throws extra work into the mix.
>> I forget which one I was on!
>> (speaking Spanish) >> (grunts in frustration) >> You better... don't do that.
Pelé and Rocky have been in school for a while.
>> That's why I try to remind you.
>> No!
>> You gotta calm down, Pelé.
Long enough to recognize that they each have their own challenges with the transition and the language.
>> I know I know.
>> The next one?
>> (speaking Spanish) >> Pelé will push himself trying to be the best he can.
>> (speaking Spanish) >> Rocky's having trouble, ripping up his book in school, getting mad.
>> Pelé, you're not looking!
>> No!
I can't... >> Just things that with time will get better.
...or you're fired.
>> Oh, yeah, you called me fired?
Then you get a whuppin'.
>> Okay, if you find it at once, Dad, then you are out.
So, Daddy goes first.
Okay, Dad.
>> Okay, yours is yellow?
>> Wait, I was supposed to go first!
Okay, is your guy yellow?
>> Yep.
>> Yep.
Okay.
>> Are you blue?
>> Okay, this is a blue, let's see... this is a blue.
>> Wait, why are you opening the blues?
>> 'Cause Daddy asked if it was blue.
>> It's orange?
>> No, you said it was orange first, so it's orange.
So you have to say it's orange, so you have to flip all the ones that are orange.
>> You said it is orange!
>> I said it's not orange.
>> So now it's yellow?
>> Ah, yeah.
>> Is... is yours sea lion?
>> Yes!
Hey, you heard that!
>> What I hear?
>> You... you cheated!
I win!
>> (laughing) >> (laughing) >> You cheated!
>> Okay, now let, now let's start over, come on.
>> It was just a joke!
>> He cheated!
>> Okay.
>> He cheated!
>> Chill out.
>> Mommy, now we're doing the people Guess Who.
>> Okay.
>> Again?
>> You know, since Marcos was deported in 2010, we have not lived together more than a couple of months at a time.
In essence, he has been a bachelor, and I have been a single mom.
Now we're finally living together, after all these years, and we have to learn to live together again.
And it's really not easy.
We have a lot of tension.
A big problem that we have here is, Marcos can't find a job.
And it's definitely not for a lack of trying.
He was offered a job as a security guard.
He would work 60 hours a week, and he would get paid approximately 55 U.S. dollars.
And I told him, that's really not the kind of money that we need to be making.
He feels emasculated, because he's not working and bringing in money.
And all of these things I feel like he takes out on me.
We're getting money from the V.A.
pension in my name.
He feels like he has to do everything I say, because I'm the one bringing money in.
>> But for me it's, like, I don't need all this stuffs.
I told her, we can live a little bit cheaper, in a little bit cheaper place.
>> You're the one that picked this place, not me.
>> No, I understand that.
>> You picked this place.
>> No, it's not nothing like that.
It's because you feel comfortable.
>> So then you keep throwing it in my face that we moved here.
>> Because you feel comfortable.
>> Well, then, stop throwing it in my face I feel comfortable.
>> You feel comfortable.
I saw you, like, you feel comfortable.
I can see you.
I mean, I'm not guessing.
I can see you where, where you feel comfortable, where you feel happy.
Otherwise, you, you not happy.
And then what happen right now is, like, you have to adjust and accept it, like, you not gonna see your mom, you not gonna have your friends.
>> I already know that.
>> You not gonna work with HOLA, you not gonna have your friends, or whatever.
>> Marcos, you act like I never left home before in my life.
>> No, no.
>> I'm a grown woman.
>> No, no.
Well, the point, the end of the point is, like, the stress, like, you no really happy, like, sometimes we argue and whatever.
It's, I told you, I'm happy.
You see, I call my mom, and it's my life, I don't wanna be, people be like me.
But I call my mom sometimes, I call... but you gotta be 24 hours, every (bleep) day.
From 7:00 in the morning till all, till 8:00, 9:00!
But I do all of this stuff because I love her and for my kids.
It's, it's just about you!
>> This is so stupid.
Like, we're here, we're living here in a great place.
We have everything that we could possibly want right now.
Our family, we're here together, and we can't get past, "I follow you everywhere.
You tell me to do this.
This, this, blah blah blah blah blah.
You're on the phone too much.
This or that.
Oh, you're on the phone all the time because you're not happy with your family."
I'm on the phone all the time 'cause I like to talk.
"You're like this.
You have a friend.
You have friends.
You should care more about your family.
Why you care about your friends all the time?"
I have one friend, and we only text.
>> Okay, go ahead.
It's, like, okay, "I don't wanna be here, I wanna go with my friends, like this and that.
And we just got together."
Okay, go ahead.
That's what you want, so... >> Your deportation has just destroyed everything.
You feel like when you have your visa interview in 2020, and it doesn't work, we're just gonna go back to the United States, and you're here, and we're there, and our relationship is over.
You feel like this is just a game for us, and we're just here on, like, a mini vacation until you can have your visa interview.
Like it's this plan I have all planned out in the beginning.
When in reality, I don't know what the heck is going on.
I don't know what's gonna happen with the interview.
I don't know what's gonna happen with immigration law between now and then.
>> I don't have anything, like, really, really stable.
So, if in 2020, they don't say, "You know what, this is done, blah blah blah," for me, it's not.
So you can say, "You know, Marcos, the relation is like that, separate."
You got your babies.
You got stability in there.
You don't need a man.
You can have ten if you want to.
And then I'm stuck here.
>> Your visa could get denied very well, yes.
But why we gotta fight about it every single day now?
>> (sighs) >> ♪ In Heaven I have a holy father ♪ ♪ Who tells me I am never alone ♪ ♪ Who tells me just to keep on believing ♪ ♪ And to keep the spirit he has called me his soul ♪ ♪ In Heaven I have a holy father ♪ >> For more on this and other programs visit, pbs.org.
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